Rene B Lre
map-marker Fort Lauderdale, Florida

INSATISFACTION

March 1st 2020 Dear TOYOTA costumer service, Owner: Rene Bergeron Car: 2014 Rav 4 Customer no 202323 In the middle of December 2019, I noticed that I had no more air conditioning in my car. On the 30th of December 2019 I decided to go at the dealer (LIPTON TOYOTA) at 1700 West Oakland boulevard in Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33311. I met Mr. Matthew Pearson, a technical adviser and I told him about the problem with my vehicle. He told me that they would verify all the components of the air conditioning system and it will cost me $160.97 US. (receipt #1) I signed the sheet and waited two hours before Mr. Pearson called me. He told me that there was a very small leak in the AC components, and they could not find it. They filled up the system with refrigerant gas and they let me go. On the 08th January 2020, 9 days after, I had once again a loss of cold air in my vehicle. I returned to Lipton Toyota to see Mr. Pearson. I left the vehicle at the garage for the day. He called me back in that same afternoon and told me that it was ready. Unfortunately, once I got there, they still could not find the leak and they filled up the system with refrigerant another time and sent me on my way. They did not charge me for the work this time. (receipt # 2) Another 13 days later, I was still in the same situation with no AC in my vehicle. I went back to Lipton Toyota to see Mr. Pearson once more. They kept my vehicle for another full day and Mr. Pearson called me back to tell me that they found la leak at the evaporator inside the vehicle. They would need to order a new evaporator and told me that it was an 8-hour job. He gave me an appointment the following Monday. I picked up my vehicle that day and brought it back the following Monday for the appointment. At the end of that day Mr. Pearson called me back one more time and told me that my vehicle was ready. This time I had to pay $1631.58 US for the repairs. (receipt #3) Three weeks later, and for the fourth time, I had no cold air coming from the AC in my vehicle. I returned to Lipton Toyota to see Mr. Pearson. I left my car there for another day. He called me back late in the morning to tell me that this time they found a tiny leak in the outside condenser and it will cost me yet another $700.00 US to complete the repairs. At this point my patience is growing thin and I was very angry, but I had no choice if wanted my car to be repaired. So once again I gave him the go ahead to repair my car. He called me back at 5h30 PM and told me that my car was ready. I informed him that I would go the next morning to pick it up and I also told him that I would like to speak to his BOSS about all the troubles I had with Lipton Toyota. The day after I made my way to Lipton Toyota to pick up my vehicle in the hopes that this would be the final time .Surprise the bill was suddenly reduced to $345.24 US, WHY? I met with Mr. Andrew Batiste the service Manager. We talked about all the problems I had with the service and he removed another $160.97 US from the bill, the amount they charged me for my first visit with them. This brought my final bill to $249.24 US, which I paid. (receipt # 4) After reflection, I think that LIPTON TOYOTA did not perform a proper diagnostic during my first and second visit and they were hoping that by filling up the AC with refrigerant fluid it would solve the problem. In my opinion, they should have found the leak in the AC system the first time around and not send me on my way without a fix. Especially not by charging me for their lack in fault finding. At the very least they should have put effort into the diagnostic on my second visit and not just refill the system once again without finding the leak. On my third visit it was supposedly the evaporator that leaked. Yet again 3 weeks later they found another leak in the condenser. How many leaks can an AC system have in such a short timeframe? Did they even perform a vacuum test on the system at each visit? Why did it take three visits before they found a problem? Why is it that at my last visit they lowered the bill from an original amount of $700.00 US to $345.00 US and then after discussions with the service manager, they took it down another $160.97 US? Does TOYOTA base its charges on actual parts costs and labour rates or on a customer complaint system. When I called my dealer in Montreal, Canada, the service manager of Toyota 40/640 told me that in 31 years of service with Toyota, he never changed an inside evaporator. The leak was most of the time the outside condenser. The possibilities for the evaporator and the condenser to have a leaked at the same time, is about one in one million. In the end I should have only paid for the trouble and repairs on the condenser. Hopefully TOYOTA will rectify this situation by accommodating one of its valued clients and addressing the service shortfalls at their Lipton Toyota dealership. Rene Bergeron Location address in Florida: 5101 N.W. 34th street V-102, Lauderdale Lakes, Florida 33319 Canada Address: 629 Masson apt. 202, Repentigny, Quebec, Canada,j6a8h6tioniIInsatisfac
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Loss:
$1600

Preferred solution: Price reduction

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#2053105

Only one answer: imcompetence.

Biller
map-marker Fort Lauderdale, Florida

They will rip you off with a smile on their face.

Updated by user Aug 21, 2019

$3,000 give or take. Not sure what else they took from the contracts.

Original review Aug 21, 2019
My wife and I purchased 3 cars from them. The first 1 was October 2017 a 2018 Corolla my daily driver. Car#2 2017 Rav 4 limited purchased in November 2017. Both cars were sold to us with extended warranties. Oct 2018 my wife trades in her Rav 4 for a 2018 Camry with extended warranty. A few months later I start getting notices that my Corolla does not have an extended warranty. I called the warrantyy company and they said it was cancelled by the dealer due to trade in. I called Lipton and tried to take care of this. At the time of the last trade in the Corolla was paid off. We had to bug them to get the title and eventually my wife picked it up and put it away but before going to this meeting about the extended warranty I notice the title they gave me was for the Rav 4 that was traded in. At the meeting I told them they made a mistake and took the wrong warranty away and showed the chief load officer Lin Chen a copy of the title of the rav 4. His reply was they do not give out real titles anymore and it is all electronic. That just pissed me off because in my clipboard was the real title and I just had to call him out. I told him I would sign the title in good faith in honoring my wifes contract and to get us the title to the Corolla and if he could add my name to the title like the Rav 4. He told me this should not be a problem. A few days latter we get a call that we can pick up the title which we did but not favors by them. So we bring our cars to another dealer for service and I ask the service agent to check extended warranty on the Camery and he finds nothing. My wife and I spend hour upon hour with Toyota customer service and all the number that they tell us to call but at the end they said I need to deal with this problem through the dealer. I talked to the dealership and got the CFO and presidents email and never got a reply. So bottom line is we own 2 cars that we paid for and on the contract for extended warranty and do not have them.
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Loss:
$3
Cons:
  • Are a con
Reason of review:
Warranty issue

Preferred solution: Full refund

j s Cxy
map-marker Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Inflating list price and disrespectful

I experienced the worst car buying experience at Lipton Toyota. I found the different personnel useless and disrespectful. The salesman asked me how much I want to pay for a RAV4. When I told him that I do not know the price, he quoted me more than $ 5,000.00 more than another Toyota dealer and what you find on the Internet. The working atmosphere at Lipton Toyota is rather hostile. When my salesman asked another salesman to vacate a golf cart to take me around the dealership, the salesman refused and they got into a shouting match. It is a miracle that Lipton Toyota is still in business.
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Pros:
  • Lousy
Reason of review:
Pricing issue

Preferred solution: Treat customers with respect and be truthful

Anonymous

Lipton Toyota is a Dishonest, Unethical, Bait & Switch dealership

I went to Lipton Toyota with a contract from another dealership and asked if they could match it... Salesman Joel Padilla told me, yes Lipton would match the other dealerships contract... after waiting almost 2 hours in the lobby, I go to sign the paperwork and they hand me a contract for $3000 more than the contract they agreed to match! Lipton Toyota is a Dishonest, Unethical, Bait & Switch dealership. If you have also been a victim of Lipton's deceiving business practices, I recommend filing a complaint with State of Florida Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles... The complaint form is here: https://www.flhsmv.gov/pdf/forms/84901.pdf
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Anonymous
map-marker Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Trickery at Lipton Toyota of Fort Lauderdale